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This week, we’re discussing the movie Now and Then directed by Lesli Linka Glatter and starring Christina Ricci and Demi Moore.
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Show Notes:
Decor inspiration:
The gas lamps in the neighborhood
Elsie’s favorite rooms:
- Treehouse
- Grandma’s attic
- Diner
Emma’s favorite rooms:
- The psychic’s house
- Chrissy’s bedroom
- Teeny’s bedroom
image credit: IMDB
Rate the movie from 0 to 5 seances:
Elsie – 4
Emma – 5
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Episode 194 Transcript:
Emma: You’re listening to The Beautiful Mess Podcast, your cozy comfort listen, and this week we’re discussing the movie Now and Then directed by Leslie Linka Gladder and starring Christina Ricci and Demi Moore. An oldie but a goodie.
Elsie: Yes, this is a wonderful movie. I am excited to discuss it.
Emma: Yeah, me too. But before we do, Elsie said she had a personal opener. That’s what we call these segments and it’s some crazy story that she hasn’t told me yet, so I’m hearing it for the first time.
Elsie: Alright, who’s ready to be horrified, terrified, and freaked out?
Emma: Me, me, me, me.
Elsie: Yes. Okay, good. Alright. So the other day I bought this awesome giant painting at the flea market ’cause I had this idea that I could, basically, it’s like a giant painting of a sea scene with a couple of boats and stuff, and it has the shore and it has a moon and it has a sky. That’s what it looks, and it just looked like an old-timey painting with a beautiful gold frame, and it was really big. And so I had the idea that I was gonna take it home and paint a little pirate ship and some little fairies and some little mermaids on it and make this Neverland painting, for our guest room upstairs ’cause we’re making the kind of like an adults and kids guest suite upstairs. So anyway, I did it and it turned out so cute. So Marigold was just waking up from her nap, this was just a couple of days ago, and so I was like, Goldie, I finished the Neverland painting, it’s upstairs. Do you wanna see it? And she was like, yeah, and so we went upstairs. And Nova was still asleep and Jeremy was downstairs in the kitchen watching baseball. We got up there, so showing her, you know, like the pirate ship and the mermaids and then the fairy tree, it glows in the dark ’cause I found some glow-in-the-dark paint. So I was like, let’s check out the glow in the dark. So we kind of stuck this giant painting into the closet, barely fit, and we got into the closet and we shut the door. And now you know where the story’s going.
Emma: I don’t. Did you get locked in?
Elsie: Yeah, and it wouldn’t open. And so we were on the third floor, and for a moment I was like, okay, we’ll get it open. I was like just showing her the painting and trying to not overreact ’cause I didn’t want her to freak out. I didn’t want her to feel any bad energy from me ’cause we were in a very small space together. But I was kind of feeling around and it was almost completely dark with a little gap along the floorboard. A little, we could see out. And to be clear, the fairy lights did keep glowing the entire time we were in this closet, which was 15 minutes. So I started first just like screaming, you know, Jeremy, Jeremy like that, trying to get him to hear, and then it was Nova. Nova later claims that she could hear, but she was too tired to check what anyone needed.
Emma: Wow Nova. Wow, Thanks for nothing.
Elsie: I know, and I was banging on the door. I mean really loud. For 15 minutes I would say is probably a good estimate. I have no way of knowing how long we were in there, but it got very hot. I knew that it was going to be okay, there was never a moment where I thought they won’t be able to find us. Or they would leave the house without us or something. ’cause I knew they would notice eventually that we weren’t there, but it took way longer than I thought it would. Like 15 minutes being trapped in a closet with no phone, we didn’t have anything, we only just had the painting. And yeah, it was the worst, it was the worst feeling ever. So now I need to immediately get those locks removed off the closets up there because they’re kind of dangerous and freaky. Anyway, after a long time Jeremy heard me screaming and then he ran up there and he was really sorry and he felt bad.
Emma: It’s kind of far, I’ve been over at your house, it’s on a third floor.
Elsie: It’s an attic basically, and it’s pretty well enclosed. So I kind of knew he wouldn’t be able to hear and he had a baseball game on.
Emma: Yeah. Honestly, I’m surprised he did hear you ’cause I’m thinking about someone being on that third floor and being down in the kitchen.
Elsie: I kind of was like laying on the ground, putting my mouth up to the crack, holding my hand there so that I could get the most possible noise out of the hole, and Marigold was doing it too, she was participating. Anyway, that’s our story.
Emma: That’s hilarious. I thought it was gonna be either one of the kids painted over it once you were done, or I thought maybe there was gonna be a rat in the closet or something. You know, something where you couldn’t escape it.
Elsie: Well, the unsettling thing is this is a closet that has another attic door inside of it, and I have looked inside of it before with Nova and it is kind of scary, so I just had to like turn my brain off to thinking about it while we were in there because, in a horror movie way, it would’ve been horrible ’cause we were for sure trapped in there there was no way out. I was slamming on it. I could not break it down.
Emma: Well, in the children’s book version, you guys jump into the painting and just sail away in the pirate boat because that’s the way out is into the painting. And then you get to the end of the movie and it was all a dream and you were stuck in the closet the whole time, and your parents finally came.
Elsie: Okay, so back to the subject. Anyway, a comfort rewatch, I tried to watch this movie with my kids and it was too boring for them. They consider it an adult movie, and honestly, I watched it with Jeremy last night and it was, it was nice. It was fun. It was cozy. My review of it was I had watched it as a child, and then this was my first time to watch it as an adult and I would definitely put it into our cozy rewatch rotation. It’s very sweet. It does have that feel-good. But I guess I was expecting it to have more of a big story. It doesn’t have a big story but it’s pretty chill and it’s pretty subtle, I would say.
Emma: Yeah, it is, and it has pretty dramatic moments too. So, I had never seen the movie before. So I first watched the trailer being like, what is this movie that we’re gonna do? Because, we’re kind of breaking out of the comfort rewatch, I suppose, since technically I hadn’t seen it before. So I watched the trailer and I was like, oh, I think I’m gonna love this because if you’ve never seen Now and Then, which I hadn’t, it’s essentially about a group of young girls and it’s their coming of age summer. They’re all like 12, 13, and so they’re kind of growing up. They’re best of friends and they make a pact that if they ever need each other when they grow up, they’ll get back together. They’ll reassemble and they do that. One of ’em is having her first baby and they kind of reassemble and they’re basically reminiscing about this summer that they spent together. And so most of the movie is just seeing the summer when these girls are growing up, and then a little bit, it flashes forward to like who they are in the present tense as the grown adult women, and it’s really sweet. After watching it five out of five ruining the ending here but if I was going to redo it, I would say, I don’t even know if we need the adult part. I’m like, just show us the kids’ Summer. You could have just made the whole movie just the kids’ summer.
Elsie: Really?
Emma: Yeah.
Elsie: I like the back and forth.
Emma: There’s one part where one of the kids almost dies and you kind of know she won’t ’cause it’s a kid’s movie, but because I’ve already seen her as an adult, I know she won’t. So to me, it almost took away this dramatic moment. Whereas I think if it was just the summer, you’d be like, oh my God, is this kid about to die? Like, whoa, this movie’s way darker than I thought, and she doesn’t. Also, a big bonus to this movie, in my opinion, is that they do a seance and a graveyard a couple of times. And a big side plot, which I think kind of becomes the main plot, is you’re trying to figure out what happened to this one person in the graveyard, Johnny, Dear Johnny. They’re trying to figure out their story, and that’s what the summer kind of turns into in a way. And I kind of feel like it could be almost a Halloween movie because there’s so much in the graveyard and like ghosts and It’s kind of a dark story of what happened to that family.
Elsie: Damn. Maybe they missed its true calling.
Emma: I was like, when did this release? Did it come out before Halloween? ’cause I felt like there were some spooky parts for a kid’s movie. And then the part where one of ’em almost dies like in a drain, and it’s like, wow, that’s dark. Also, when she goes down there, I was like, is it about to show up because you’re down in this drain, and I just feel like there’s about to be a creepy clown any minute now, but there wasn’t.
Elsie: I hate the drain thing. I just can’t imagine that anyone would ever like to try to go inside one. It’s absolutely terrible.
Emma: It is. Yeah. Well, during rain too. It’s like, oh my god. Yeah. My memories of first watching this movie the other night is I loved it.
Elsie: Yeah. I remember watching it as a child. I knew it had Christina Ricci and Thora Birch. I didn’t remember anything else about it. Pretty much.
Emma: That’s a pretty all-star cast. Once I was watching it, I was like, Rosie O’Donnell, Rita Wilson. What? What’s happening here? Yeah. It’s like a pretty all-star.
Elsie: Yeah. No, I love all of the casting. It’s really nice. Yeah. So, okay. As far as decor inspiration.
Emma: Before we talk about the houses can we just shout out to the gaslight lamps in the neighborhood? The neighborhood is named Gaslight something. Gaslight estates, I wanna say.
Elsie: Gaslight District or something.
Emma: I don’t know. It’s something, and each of the little outdoor sconces in front of people’s houses, like the streetlights are flickering, it’s like gas lit by propane or whatever.
Elsie: I love those kind of lamps.
Emma: I was so into it. I don’t know if they’re dangerous. I know nothing about them.
Elsie: Oh, they’re not dangerous, lots of people have them.
Emma: But I was like, this is so charming. Yeah. I love those gaslight lamps, I was so into that. I loved that detail. I felt like it must be in someone’s actual neighborhood somewhere, ’cause it was really special and they showed it a few times and I loved it.
Elsie: Yes, I loved the detail as well. One of our friends, I won’t say who, ’cause maybe this is like violating their privacy, but one of our close friends lives in a, like, what’d you call it? An old-timey-themed neighborhood and it kind of looks like that with the lamps, you’ve never been there.
Emma: I don’t know who you’re talking about. I feel like they’re secret, safe because I don’t know who you talking about.
Elsie: All the streets are named after old authors or books or something. I’m trying to think of some extent, anyways.
Emma: It’s probably like Charles Dickens’s way or something.
Elsie: Yeah, it has like gazebos.
Emma: Shakespeare circle. I don’t know. What are we doing?
Elsie: Yeah, I think it’s like Jane Austen and Charles Dixon’s theme or something. I don’t know. It’s cute though. Anyway, these neighborhoods do exist is my point. I didn’t have strong decor reactions to this movie, I will just say upfront. For me, the most nostalgic part was the overall feeling and for me, my favorite rooms that were shown were for sure the tree house and also the grandma’s attic when they broke into the grandma’s attic. Those were the vibiest places, and I also like the small-town diner.
Emma: I loved the diner and the psychic’s house. When they go to get the tarot card reading or whatever it is they’re doing exactly. Her house was cool too, with all the beads and the doorways and things like that. It felt very, It’s the vibe.
Elsie: Eighties meets Tarot Lady.
Emma: Yeah. It was like a costume. It was like a Disney ride, but it also felt perfect and I loved it.
Elsie: Oh yeah, that’s a good idea for a Disney ride, now that you mention it.
Emma: Like a psychic reading, and it could be like past, present, future. We don’t need to design that right now. Let’s focus. Okay. So my favorite rooms though, I did love Chrissy’s bedroom. She has pink and white stripe wallpaper in her room. That’s the one. Bonnie Hunt’s the mom, and it’s coming and giving her the sex talk. But it’s not real sex talk, it’s flowers and gardening sex talk, and you’re like, uh oh, this isn’t gonna be helpful. And that’s all you’re thinking in the movie. But the wallpaper looks just like old school Peter Pan, their bedroom wallpaper, like in the book. I read that to Oscar all the time, he loves that one. So I was like, oh, this is the Peter Pan bedroom wallpaper. It’s not Peter Pan’s bedroom, but like Wendy and her brother’s, their playroom, the nursery, it’s like pink and white stripes. And I was like, this looks just like Chrissy’s bedroom. That’s interesting. And then I also really like Teenie’s room. Thora Birch and her character grow up to be a movie star, and her bedroom was just very seventies, groovy, orange and yellow and red.
Elsie: That’s true. Her bedroom looked like a modern-day home Instagrammer. It was very vibey and finished out, she had her built-in colors matching her wallpaper and stuff.
Emma: And they mentioned that her parents are kind of well todo or country club people, I think it calls them or something. So I was like, okay, I guess it makes sense because her bedroom, I was like, this is a nice bedroom. I don’t know what your childhood bedroom was like, but mine was more like posters tacked up on the wall, you know? So I was like, wow, this room is fancy, I was pretty into it and yeah, loved the tree house. It had a beautiful rail around it. I was kind of obsessed in the whole movie that they kept saying it was like $124 and they’re trying to save up the money for this tree house. And I was like, this tree house cost $124. I know this is set way back in the day, but really? And then also, who’s gonna install this? Whose parents put this tree house up, ’cause it was like three stories up. It was way up in the tree, they had like three ladders snaking up there.
Elsie: They did kind of HGTV a little bit on the tree house because they said it was $120 and you could buy it from Sears. But somebody has to put that kit together.
Emma: And there’s painting involved serious painting. Yeah. Not like just sprayed it.
Elsie: There was a lot going on. It was very elaborate. I’m definitely in my tree house era trying to get my kids an epic tree house, so I was very invested in that.
Emma: I didn’t think they showed the inside enough either. I was very upset. I tried Googling it later and there wasn’t anything online either, and I was upset.
Elsie: If you don’t show the interior of your tree house during all four seasons and the major holidays, then don’t even make a movie about it.
Emma: Don’t talk about the tree house because Yeah, it’s like you’re not even showing it to us. God. Yeah, I did not feel like there was enough. And at the very end of the movie, one of the characters had her baby, and they’re all up in the tree house talking and the baby’s up there. And I was like, okay no, because I saw that there were three ladders to get up into this tree house. You have a newborn baby up there. How did you climb up those ladders with that baby? I did not believe that part. I was like, Nope. I’m not calling it an unsafe situation. I’m just saying I don’t see how you did it. I don’t think so.
Elsie: You need to suspend your disbelief for that a little bit.
Emma: I was like, why’d you take the baby up there? Treehouses are the place to escape the baby for a few minutes. Leave it with your mom for a few minutes.
Elsie: Oh, Emma.
Emma: Anyway. What else? What else, what else?
Elsie: They’re just trying to portray the circle of life.
Emma: I guess that’s true.
Elsie: Don’t take that away from them.
Emma: I will say maybe the interiors weren’t as, I mean, they were pretty great, but there just wasn’t as much of them.
There was a lot of being outside. They’re on their bikes a lot. There’s a lot happening outdoors. So I feel like the movie’s a little more about that. They’re in the graveyard a lot, but I did feel like there was some pretty good fashion inspiration in this. I know we’re following around like preteen girls, but I still was like, I like the shirt, I like these shorts.
If Madewell was selling this, I would buy it, I’m pretty interested, it was all cute.
Elsie: Yeah, they were definitely adorable and I loved their adult versions, seeing how they dressed as well. It’s very sweet. It’s such a good movie.
Emma: Yeah. Demi Morre’s character, I think she’s kind of science fiction. She had these braids up on her head.
Elsie: She was like a super hipster.
Emma: Yeah, definitely. Kind of a Benik type or something, very emo. But yeah any other inspirations from the movie? They do a lot of life lessons ’cause one of the girls almost dies, and one of the girls has a dead parent. One of ’em, the parents are divorcing, and she meets the new boyfriend and that’s a whole moment.
Elsie: Oh my God. One of my favorite lines from the movie was when she said, I’ve heard that in a few years, 50% of the population will be divorced. And she’s like, I don’t believe that. It’s like, oh my gosh it’s such a crazy change for our country when no-fault divorce became legal. It’s very different.
Emma: Very different. Oh, the scene where they meet the vet who’s played by Brendan Frazier. He’s a Vietnam vet, and he seems to be hitchhiking, and he kind of has a limp. And so they kind of talk about that he got shot in the wars, I believe what his character says, but he’s supposed to be a Vietnam vet so he’s gotten back from Vietnam somewhat recently, I think, what the movie’s telling us. And that whole scene to me was like really weird. ’cause I was like, what’s happening? This guy seems to be like a young man, like an adult, and there’s all these pre-teen girls and he’s like letting them have a cigarette. On the one hand, I’m like, okay, he’s trying to be friendly, but on the other hand, I was like, is something weird about to happen, I don’t know, my radar was up.
Elsie: That’s true. My radar was up as well. And did you notice that there was a scene where their grandma brings ’em into their living room and she serves them all, I think alcohol because they’re all choking on their drink, and It looked like it could be lemonade, but they’re all like choking it down. So I think that’s what they were implying. This is really funny because yeah, we definitely didn’t have grandmas who served us alcohol when we were 12 years old. That would be so cool.
Emma: And there are a lot of cigarettes in the movie. Like mini characters are smoking. Which, whatever but I just feel like movies don’t do that as much now, so I was just like, oh yeah, this is an old movie. Back when we were much more chill about this ’cause it’s a kid movie for sure, at least a family movie.
Elsie: That’s true. It’s definitely outdated, but I kind of believe in accepting outdated things for what they are.
Emma: Well, smoking’s the worst thing that happens in the movie then It’s like, that’s not that bad. ’cause it’s pretty easy to tell a kid, smoking heads up causes cancer. It’s pretty easy. It’s just interesting.
Elsie: Yeah, I thought the small town, like the Main Street strip, was also really cute. I always like it when they have that in movies. ’cause that’s something that being from Missouri, we see, we see towns that look that way a lot. Our town doesn’t look that way, but lots of like communities, little surrounding towns where our grandma’s from there are lots of places that look that way and it is, it’s so sweet.
Emma: Yeah, a little, having a little dinner made me think of the diner we used to go to with our grandma growing up. Oh yeah. It felt very familiar, but it did not feel like my town, which I think is good. I consider that a compliment. They were like tapping into something kind of universal, at least to me. But oh yeah, I loved it. Should we do some trivia?
Elsie: Let’s do the trivia.
Emma: Okay. First, so the four younger versions of the girls were cast first, and after the adults were cast, they watched the footage of the young girls’ performances to inform their own.
Elsie: That’s nice.
Emma: Do you really think that, how believable do you think that was though ’cause I was like, I love this whole cast. And everyone did a great job, but I did not feel like it was like, oh yeah, they cast these two people ’cause they kind of look alike, or their mannerisms felt similar. I was just like, okay and they cast two great actresses, one who’s a child and one who’s an adult and that’s that, you know? But I didn’t really feel like it was like, oh yeah, they seem so similar.
Elsie: To be a hundred percent honest, I think they just picked famous people too.
Emma: That’s what I think. I’m not saying it’s bad, but I’m just like, I don’t know. I don’t feel like they got my mannerisms exactly. I was like, I don’t know.
Elsie: That’s true. Like have you watched the show Yellow Jackets?
Emma: No.
Elsie: It’s like a recent show and they have like a younger and teenage version or an adult and teenage version of the same characters, and they look a lot alike. And they really sell it. They didn’t do that, no.
Emma: Or when the new Hocus Pocus came out this past year, that one I felt like the little girls, the young, I don’t know how old they are, I think they’re young girls, but in the movie, they felt like they watched the old Hocus Pocus to me or Hocus Pocus a lot ’cause they just did little things like the older actresses. And I was like, oh they are definitely doing a little bit of an impersonation of them a little bit, and I thought it was so good. It made me think like, wow, they’re such good actors. ’cause they’re clearly trying to be this other person, a younger version of this person. So anyway. This movie didn’t do that, in my opinion. Moving on.
Elsie: Okay. The next trivia is Thora Birch, who plays Teeny, had never ridden a bike before this movie. That’s so funny, I love stories like that.
Emma: Robert Pattinson, that was some of the trivia from Twilight. I think we read on the podcast.
Elsie: That he didn’t drive a car.
Emma: And he had to learn there in the rainy area. Yeah, to have to learn to ride a bike and then do it in a movie. I mean, I guess you would be very motivated to learn. She looked great.
Elsie: I guess, yeah, to be fair there’s probably like always something like Emma never really learned to use roller skates.
Emma: I still don’t know how.
Elsie: And then for me, I can’t remember what my thing would be, but there’s probably definitely something that I just never learned that I’m just too afraid of.
Emma: Can you ski?
Elsie: Definitely can’t ski.
Emma: There you go. There’s something. I can’t really ski either. So if you had to be in a movie where they’re like, you’re gonna ski past the camera now, you’d be like, nope. I don’t know how to do that. Okay. Samantha’s little sister in the movie was played by Demi Moore’s oldest daughter Rumor Willis.
Elsie: Oh, that’s sweet.
Emma: Isn’t that cute?
Elsie: That’s very cute.
Emma: I couldn’t even tell during the movie, and then I feel like I saw some promo thing or something that was like, here they are years later or whatever. ’cause I was trying to look up more treehouse pictures, essentially. And I was like, oh, it’s her daughter. I didn’t even notice during the movie. She’s so little in the movie. But I was like, oh cute. That’s cute. I don’t even know if they had the same days of shooting, probably not ’cause the older actresses are like never in shots with the young ones. But I still was like, that’s really cute that they’re both in the same movie.
Elsie: That’s very cute. Okay. Marlene King wrote the movie when she was 10 years old and said it was about her group of friends growing up. That’s adorable. I love that.
Emma: I love that. Yeah. So cool.
Elsie: When she was 10 years old, though. So you’re making a lot of predictions about the future. That actually makes their older selves make more sense to me. I think I accept them more now.
Emma: Because they seem more generic a little bit?
Elsie: Yeah, like more of a visualization of how life would be than a real person.
Emma: Yeah. ’cause I did feel like the younger versions, there were a lot of kind of specific things and specific things that didn’t even go anywhere necessarily. They didn’t always ladder up to something bigger, which to me felt very true to life. It’s not a memoir necessarily, but still I loved it. It did feel very much like childhood to me. So it kinda makes sense to me that a kid actually wrote it because it really felt like growing up and it was good. So good for her.
Elsie: Good for her. I love it. Okay, rate this movie from zero to five seances. Okay, I’m going to give it a four out of five. I think if Rosie O’Donnell’s character would’ve had a coming out, I would’ve given it a five. I think it needed that.
Emma: Thought it was gonna happen.
Elsie: I was waiting for it then it didn’t. I felt like it was gonna be a great moment, and then it just kind of didn’t, so that’s the only flaw I can find in it though. I think it was very cute.
Emma: No, I loved it. I’m gonna give it five seances. Loved it so much.
Elsie: It was cute. And thank you to everyone who wrote in. So our podcast editor, Jillian helped us choose this movie because she said it was one of the most requested movies we’ve ever gotten in our email. So email us anytime at podcast@abeautifulmess.com, which movie you wanna see and we will do it. I mean, Emma had never even seen this movie before.
Emma: I’ve never seen this one and I loved it, so thank you. I feel like we have a lot of Mandy Moore movies in our future. That’s what I’ve been seeing a lot in the podcast box, which is fun.
Elsie: I like that.
Emma: I know. I’m excited about it. The future is bright.
Elsie: Okay. Yeah, I know. That sounds good. I think that pretty soon either the next one or the one after that will be full in Halloween movie mode, which will be nice.
Emma: We still need to do Jurassic Park. And I was like, maybe that could be the very beginning, like transitioning because it is a little scary, but it’s not really a Halloween movie.
Elsie: It’s not a Halloween movie.
Emma: Yeah. So I was like, we gotta get that in before summer’s over though. It’s incredible.
Elsie: Do you think that I could let Nova watch it or do you think I can’t?
Emma: I mean, you could start it and just tell her to say stop when it gets too scary because at least she’ll get to see the baby dinosaur and the egg that’s the like the best part as a kid. But then it gets, I think, too scary after a while.
Elsie: I think you’re right.
Emma: Then she can be like, no, not this part.
Elsie: She’ll probably get bored.
Emma: Just tell her to hang in till after the baby dinosaur hatches out the egg.
Elsie: Okay, let’s pass it over to the Nova segment. All right this week we have a special treat. We received a lot of positive feedback after Nova’s pug meditation. So this week she has prepared another meditation for you with a new theme. Nova, what is the theme?
Nova: Space.
Elsie: Outer space meditation. Okay, let’s do it. I’m closing my eyes.
Nova: So are you calm? Get comfy. Do whatever you can and whatever you need to do to get calm. Then close your eyes. Imagine you’re in a rocket ship. You see a lot of buttons, and then you press the button to take off, and then when you get onto the moon, your ship crash lands. You find yourself in a base with some spacesuits, you put on one and then go out. You don’t have a lot of weight on, so imagine you’re just floating and jumping. You see a flag on the moon, it’s an American flag. Then you take your rocket ship and you go all the way. All the way and see some stars. Then you glance out the window, you see blackness and you see Earth from far away. It looks so tiny to you. After you look at that, you turn, press a button and then loop the loop, and you go all the way and explore space. You see other rocket ships, you see some other astronauts with some jet. And then they land on the moon. You go down again to go join them. You say hi. They say hi and fly together out in space, and then go back onto Earth with your new best friend, and then you go back home and enjoy a peaceful dinner together.
Elsie: Love it. Thank you, Nova. We hope you enjoyed this episode. Please continue to send us your request anytime. We’ll consider pretty much any movie that inspires us. You can email us at podcast@abeautifulmess.com. Next week we are answering your decor questions.
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